Donald Trump says the 2024 campaign will be his last if he loses

“No, I don’t. I think it will, it will,” Trump said when journalist Sharyl Attkisson asked if he would run again.

The comment was notable both because Trump appeared to rule out a fourth run for the White House and because he rarely admits to the possibility of legitimately losing an election. Trump normally insists that this could only happen if there was widespread deception, a false allegation he made in 2020 and preemptively made again during his presidential campaign in 2024.

Trump would be 82 in 2028, a year older than President Joe Biden is now. Biden dropped out of the race in July following his disastrous performance in the debates and months of criticism from Trump and other conservatives as too old and erratic for the job.

Attkisson interviewed Trump for her show “Full Measure.” Also during the 22-minute interview, Trump defended his record on the coronavirus pandemic. He took credit for the development of the COVID-19 vaccines developed during his presidency, also saying that “they are doing studies on the vaccines and we will find out” if they are safe.

Trump said Republicans have become skeptical of vaccines even as Democrats trust them.

The statement about 2028 came right at the end of the interview, which also included a question about how Trump stays healthy. “I try to eat right,” the former president said, drawing an incredulous reaction from Attkisson, who noted that Trump has become famous for his fondness for hamburgers.

“Proper hamburgers,” Trump said.